The transcript below is an excerpt from a recent Watchman’s Cry Audio Program. This transcript is from Part 2
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By Nathan Leal
Ladies and gentlemen, there is a malady that is taking place right now in the present Watchman’s Universe that has to be addressed.
Because unfortunately, based on what I have observed, the truth has taken a backseat to deception. This is why hypocrisy and heresy has been allowed to sneak in. And this is why there seems to be confusion right now in the remnant body of Christ.
Folks, it shouldn’t be this way; what’s white is white, and what’s black is black.
– And what is pure must stay pure.
– And what is impure must be kept away from the pure offering of the Word of God.
– And the pure offering of a watchman should be a benefit for the people of God.
But if the information has falsehood, mixture and mud, then the clarity, and the purity of the Word then becomes clouded.
The Bible tells us, Therefore come out from among them.
We cannot have mixture folks. Lies and deceit do not belong anywhere in a presentation that is given to God’s people, and you can’t afford to be listening to information that has mixture of truth because it can lead people astray and it is leading some people astray.
And this is not right folks!
Mixture can lead people into believing the wrong perspective, and it can lead people into believing the wrong remedy. Or give the impression of the wrong remedy, or direction, and it can have grave consequences.
Nathan what you mean it can give the wrong impression? Or the wrong perspective?
This is what I mean folks. When we look at the landscape of the presence climate in America and in the West, and for the most part, the whole world; we can see that it resembles the end time narrative and the things that we were warned about in the Bible.
We can see that prophecy is taking place around us. We can see that evil has invaded the land;
– Deception is invading the land.
– Heresy is invading the land.
The lukewarm church is running rampant throughout the West, throughout the world, and as a Bible believing Christian, you want to be able to make it. Right folks?
The Routine of the Remnant
So in order to do that, there is a routine that many of you may participate in, which includes listening to the watchmen.
This task occurs by getting on the Internet, and tuning in to the radio programs and listening to the words that the watchmen are offering.
And folks, I have a question, Why you do that?
What is the reason for this routine?
Most likely, this takes place because you want information to help guide, navigate, and help you make decisions. Right?
You want to know how close it is the next big event, because if you’ve been at this long enough, you are familiar with the threats. And there are several of them: from the grid going down, to a big earthquake, or an asteroid, or the dollar crashing, World War III, martial law, Civil War. There are a lot of possibilities. So you want to know.
However, do you want to be wasting your time with falsehoods and information that is wrong? Do you folks? Of course not.
And the other thing that I’m noticing is that if the people of God, and the remnant of God give the time of day to a radio program because they want information; then that radio program needs to understand that it is a privilege to get behind a microphone and give information to God’s people. It is a privilege that comes with a great responsibility.
If a person is going to do that, and also offer commentary to let the people know of the threats that are potentially out there, they need to deliver their commentary with truth and with understanding.
Most watchman, whether they are Christian or not, know about the list of potential threats, Which are several like; a terrorist attack, the dollar crashing. I mentioned some of them a few moment ago, but most watchmen know about the threats.
Not All Watchmen are the Same
But not all watchmen are the same, and here’s the dividing line. It has to do with their remedy and their vocalized strategy. And at its very core, it has to do with what they believe. Because a watchman’s beliefs play into their choice of strategy to navigate the threat.
Most of the watchmen know about the many threats that are out there, but they also have core beliefs about how to deal with the threats.
What you mean Nathan?
It’s about what you believe folks. Because we either believe that the Constitution is going to save us, and save the United States, or we believe that we are under judgment here in America.
It is one or the other!
This is the hard truth, aside from national repentance, nothing is going to stop the judgment! Not Donald Trump. Not Ted Nugent. And not the Patriots.
Double Minded Blindness
Folks, we either believe that we are under judgment or not. And I am assured that most of you know this. Most of you know that the cup of iniquity is going to be swallowed down by the people of the land, because they willingly participated in anti-God behavior, and ungodly behavior. The majority of the people of the land have rejected God and they will face the cup.
This thing is going to be reckoned with, and it is called, judgment, ladies and gentlemen.
Unfortunately, I have observed some of the watchman out there have a habit of daily changing their opinion about the remedy that will save America.
One day the answer is a natural earthly remedy like the Constitution, or Donald Trump, or politics,
and then on a different day, they say that America is in judgment.
They seem to go back and forth, and I notice that they seem to change their opinion based on the day on the calendar, or the time of the day. Because one day they talk about judgment and the next day to talk about Trump and the hope that he brings. They can’t seem to make up their minds.
Now ladies and gentlemen, why is this?
My People Do Not Understand Judgment
“Even the stork in the heavens
Knows her appointed times;
And the turtledove, the swift, and the swallow
Observe the time of their coming.
But My people do not know the judgment of the LORD.
Jeremiah 8:7
Because the reality and the understanding of divine judgment is not for negotiation, and if a person is double minded about it, and if a person waffles about the judgment, or about Donald Trump, and goes back and forth, then this reveals, and illustrates, and tells us, and shows us that the understanding of divine judgment and the understanding of the mechanics of a divine judgment is not in their fiber. It is not interwoven into their spirit.
If a person can waffle back and forth about this matter, then it reveals that they really don’t believe what they are saying. And they are unsure, because the mouth speaks from the abundance of the heart. The words of a person reveal what is in the heart of men.
Please think about this. If a person is a “watchman,” or they call themselves a “watchman,” and they waffle between those two things, between judgment or that Trump is going bring hope. Then that means that they are confused about what time it is. It means that they don’t possess the correct understanding.
So let me ask folks, is this the kind of person that you want to get your information from? Is this the type of voice that should influence your decision making? If they do not even know what’s going on?
If a person does not understand what time it is, then they are going to walk blindly as events appear before them.
What Time is It?
By the way, let me just share this brethren, I know, that I know, that I know, and nothing is going to change this.
– I know in my fiber. I know in reality.
– I know in spiritual reality.
– I know in the physical world.
– I know that in the divine court of Heaven.
– I know that in the diary of God, and in the Chronicles of the things of God.
– I know, that I know, that this world is under judgment right now.
And I know that America is under judgment right now. I know, that I know, folks, that this is what time it is!
And no man is good to stop it!
And no man is going to cause America to escape the cup of iniquity and sidestep what she has coming to her. An escape is not going happen folks. Because I have seen the judgment take place, and I have heard from the voice of God and He has explained it. And many of you have seen the same thing.
“Nathan, you just sound negative. How do you know that a reprieve of judgment will not happen?â€
That’s a good question. But I see what the Scriptures reveal about the judgment, “If the people humble themselves,” has not taken place.
It hasn’t folks, so judgment is going to transpire. It is going to go forth. It is going to happen and no man is going to stop it. No man is going to slow it down. No man is going to sidestep it, and steer America around the speed bump of judgment.
By the way, I am not saying this because I delight in America’s verdict. I do not. Over the years, I have shared that this message brings me great sadness and lament. And it causes me to grieve because I have children and I know that their future is not going to be easy. I am also saddened because the blame for the present dilemma lies with the spiritual complacency of the church and its leadership.
Which brings me to today’s topic. The leadership of the church includes the watchmen.
Why the Confusion?
But the question must be asked, “Why are some the watchmen confused?”
Because today, I hear many talk of remedies and maybes, that were not uttered from God and if these voices do not speak for God, they are spiritually fatherless. And if a person is spiritually fatherless because they don’t get it, then they are going to attract others to be orphans with them.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is no small matter. Because many of today’s watchmen have allowed themselves broad latitude with their offering. But if their words lack truth and understanding, there is no way that they are going to be able to lead others to navigate through the spiritual reality and the real challenges that we are facing.
Jesus said that there would be a great deception “Take heed, let no man deceive you.”
You know what folks, this situation is not new. In the past, we have encountered and we have seen this thing take place over and over, where you have the warning of God. And you have God communicating with some of his watchmen.
– But then the majority of the other “watchmen” or “voices” or “messengers” or “prophets” argue with it, and bypass it, and ignore it, and try to excuse it, and try to hem-haw around it and talk around it. And dance around it.
If we go to the Book of Isaiah, Chapter 9, there is something written that relates to this.
Isaiah faced a similar issue with the people of his time.
You see folks, when you are listening to a watchman speak about the mess that America is in, and they speak about how bad the economy is with all the layoffs. And they utter a summary about the shopping malls that are closing down, and the businesses that are shutting down, for example, Macy’s is cutting their losses and is going to be closing a number of stores; Barnes & Noble is going to shut down one third of their stores the next few years. Walgreens also made the list, as well as others.
Why is America in Trouble?
We can read the diagnosis and see that America is falling apart. Her economic strength is withering and when you hear a watchman speak about it, please make note of this folks, when you hear them talk about America’s hardship, are they offering the spiritual reason of why?
If not, then it reveals how blind they are. Or are choosing to side step it. And it also reveals that they are spiritually handicapped from seeing the big picture.
In fairness, perhaps some of the watchmen are not knowledgeable about the entire matter, but if they have a handicap which lacks a complete prophetic vision, then how can they offer advice and lead others? By the way, I am not saying this to be mean or unkind. I am saying this because it is true.
When we look at Isaiah Chapter 9, look what it says in verse 13.
But first let me say this, the reason that businesses are shutting their doors, and America is going bankrupt is because God is spanking America.
And the reason for the present weather that’s taking place is so that man can turn back to God, so that man can repent while it’s taking place, so that they can get it. “Oh, wow, God’s trying to get our attention. We need to repent.
Now let’s read from Isaiah 9:13
“The people do not turn to him who strikes them nor do they seek the LORD of Hosts. Therefore, the LORD will cut off the head and the tail from Israel.”
See, this is what’s going on now, folks. The people aren’t turning to God and they’re not associating the destruction of America’s once prosperous position on the planet and the earth as a producer nation, as a powerful nation, as a nation that consisted of blue-collar workers, of a strong middle-class. That’s all gone away because we’re under judgment.
So, when the watchmen talk about it, do they associate the job loss with God’s spanking? See, folks, how often do you hear the two put together? And that’s what it says right here.
“The people do not turn to him who strikes them nor do they seek the LORD of Hosts. Therefore, the LORD will cut off the head and the tail from Israel.”
In this example, it’s talking about Israel but this applies to God’s people today. The LORD will cut off their head, palm branch and bulrush in one day.
Verse 15. “The elder and honorable, he is the head. The prophet who teaches lies, he is the tail. For the leaders of the people cause them to error. The prophet teaches lies and the leaders of the people cause them to err, and those who are led by them are destroyed.”
You see, folks, today’s present watchmen do have a voice. If they are bringing us the warning of what time it is, they are also acting in the position of leadership, to lead. Because they are offering advice. To offer advice that is financial, or advice that has to do with relocating, or doing something with your lifestyle and your living situation, that falls under the category of leading.
But it says right here,
“The prophet teach lies and the leaders of the people cause them to err. And those who are led by them are therefore destroyed. Therefore, the LORD will have no joy in their young men nor have mercy on the fatherless and widows, for everyone is a hypocrite and an evildoer and every mouth speaks folly.”
Their mouths out of the mouths of the watchmen, foolish words come forth. Folks, this is no small matter. This is serious. The watchmen out there have a responsibility. If they are not bringing the truth, and are not leading God’s people to the trough of truth in His word, then what is the purpose?
Is it just entertainment? Is that all it is?
You know what, folks? I have a feeling, based on the communication that I’ve had with many of you, those of you that are regular listeners have a hunger for the Word of God, and you have a hunger for your relationship to be nourished and strengthened. You have a hunger to navigate through the days ahead correctly, with wisdom. You have a hunger to have God involved in your decision-making. You have a hunger to make the right choices. You have a hunger for God’s covering to be over you. You have a hunger to dwell in the secret place, for God’s angels to be stationed around your property, around your house, to protect you and your family. You have that hunger, folks.
So, in order for us to get there, ladies and gentlemen, we cannot be listening to error that’s out there.
Leading With Error
Let’s look at Isaiah Chapter 9:13,
For the people do not turn to Him who strikes them, nor do they seek the Lord of hosts.
This is occurring now, because many watchmen are not associating the present house of cards that is about to tumble with the judgment of God. And I’m noticing that there are some of them that have converted to the Trump bandwagon. They have stated that he’s the new hope.
This is a dilemma, because on some programs, they offer their opinions about the coming storm, but they failed to mention judgment. And they disregard the cup of iniquity, which is going to be poured out upon America.
Folks, when the momentum of God’s judgment gains velocity in America, the rest of Chapter 9, verse 18 is going to happen.
“For wickedness burns as the fire. It shall devour the briers and the thorns and kindle the thickets of the forests. And they shall mount up like rising smoke.”
This is what’s coming, folks.
“Through the wrath of the LORD of Hosts, the land is burned up and the people shall be as fuel for the fire. And no man shall spare his brother.”
Based on the verses above, if the people did not repent, eventually judgment resulted in fire and rising smoke.
Folks, we are living in very serious days, and you cannot afford to be juggling truth from lies and playing hopscotch around words of deception while trying to locate the truth. You don’t have time for that. Unfortunately, this is quite common from the present buffet of the Watchman’s Universe.
So what do we do about it, Nathan?
Well my friend, step one is knowing about it. And admitting that it is taking place. I have watched it take place for too long. So now it’s time to talk about it.
I need to address it in spite of its unpopularity.
You are going to make enemies, Nathan.
We Wrestle Not against Flesh and Blood
I am not saying this to make more enemies. I am saying this because the hour is late and I have no choice. Besides, up to this point, I have not heard others talk about this. By the way, my enemies are not the other watchmen. My enemy is deception.
Because Satan loves it. And his favorite tactics are deception, distraction, misdirection, and confusion.
Speaking of deception, It also serves no good purpose if a watchman has a habit of crying wolf.
In part one of this audio, we read from Ezekiel 33, and studied how a watchmen who was appointed by men, had the requirement of telling the truth. They were not allowed to lie or cry wolf.
The watchman were not permitted to make things up.
We also learned that the watchman that is mentioned in the early portion of Ezekiel 33 was a watchman appointed by men.
Eze 33:2 “ Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:
(Note this information can be found in part one.)
We also learned that a watchman appointed by man was not always a Christian, or a godly person. However, they had the requirement of reporting correctly.
This applies today. Not all watchmen are Christians. Which means you need to have discernment to know if they are telling the truth in their reporting because it’s obvious, some individuals out there are not telling the truth. (I covered this in part one.)
When we look at the ones out there who say that they are watchmen, there’s a tendency to quote Ezekiel 33.
“If the watchman sees the sword come and he doesn’t blow the trumpet and the people aren’t warned, their blood will be on his hands.”
Some watchmen often quote the verse above. They say, “I have joined the Watchman Universe.”
Well, they don’t use those words, but they announce that they are watchmen. But they may appear on a radio show or report it on a blog that, “I’m a watchman and this is what I do.” And they announce that their job is to warn. That’s good. They should say these things.
But the part that many seem to ignore is about truth, ladies and gentlemen.
The verses in Ezekiel 33:1-6 apply to an earthly watchman, who could be secular, but it still has the requirements of truth. Crying wolf is not allowed.
So, when you listen to the alternative media, when you go to a YouTube channel or get on Facebook and you hear the offerings out there. By the way, there are hundreds of them. Folks, there is not just one, or two, or five, or ten watchmen out there.
There are hundreds out there.
But whoever they are, it is VERY important to understand what I have to say in the remainder of this program.
The�Watchman – Appointed by God
I want to shift gears and talk about the other kind of watchmen. Because earlier I said, “not all watchmen are the same, there are two kinds.”
The first type of watchmen is appointed by the people. Make note of this folks.”There is a watchman that is appointed by man.
And then there is another type of watchmen. Now, I also want to say this, folks. Please make note of this. The next type of watchman that we’re going to read about is not very common. This means that there are not a lot of them.
Please turn to Ezekiel 33:7. By the way, up until the first seven, God talked about in earthly watchman. He said, “Ezekiel, if the people set up their watchman, he must do this, this, and this.”
He mentioned the first type so that he could reveal the contrast of an earthly watchman and then a different type of watchmen.
In Ezekiel 33:7, God explains to Ezekiel that his job as a watchman is divinely ordained. In other words, his position is a calling.
Now, watch this, folks. Ezekiel 33:7
“So, thou, O son of man, I have sent thee as a watchman unto the house of Israel. Therefore, thou shalt hear the word at My mouth and warn them from Me.”
Make note of this, verse 7 shows us that there is a different kind of watchman than what we read in the previous six versus. And this second type of watchmen was placed in office by God Himself. Do you see it folks?
“Son of man, I have set thee as a watchman.”
Ezekiel’s position was a divine calling made by God. It was not an appointment of man like the previous watchmen. It was not a secular job. And it was not appointed by the people,
– or a council,
– or other watchmen.
Ladies and gentlemen, this position was ordained of God!
Which meant Ezekiel did not need to have the permission of other “watchmen.” He didn’t have to have permission from the “watchmen” out there who saw themselves as an authority over his job.
Ezekiel answered to God. He was ordained of God. He was called of God. It was a divine appointment. He was called of God and God set him in place.
When Ezekiel was called, he did not have a choice. Because when God calls someone, they either obey the calling or they will die in rebellion.
This means that there are some watchmen out there in the world who have been divinely called of God to do the task.
(Sidenote – “To the recruits who may be reading this and also running from their calling, the best course of action is obedience. Because running from one’s calling never ends well. There will never be peace within. I know this all too well. When the voice of God stirs within and is not obeyed, it will dry up the bones. And may result in the words of one of our predecessors.” the tempest is because of me.” Obey the calling, my friend.)
The Watchman – Appointed by Man or Appointed by God
Out there in Internet Land, there are some who call themselves a watchman. But here is the question, “Are they a secular watchman appointed by the people? Did they just decide that they wanted to do it, so they went?
– Or, are they a watchman divinely called of God?
Before you answer that question, just let it sit there for a moment.
– Just let it sit, folks. Because this question is valid.
How many of the watchmen out there are called? And how many are appointed by man? Think about it. Because there is also another criteria that will help us to determine the answer to this question.
Brethren, we can know the answer. We can know if a person is divinely called when we examine them, when we hear them, and when we listen to them. We can know. But I want to first establish right now that there is a difference between the watchmen out there.
If you are taking notes, write this down. There are two kinds of watchmen.
There are two kinds; a watchman appointed by men and a watchman appointed by God.
My friends, not all watchmen are the same.
Now, I did not say that some of them are better than others. I didn’t say that if they are divinely called, then they are better than the ones that are not divinely called. I did not say that, folks.
But I will say this. Some watchmen have the favor of God that others do not. This is proven by their fruits and it is proven in their words and it’s proven in their history, and in their track record.
Ladies and gentlemen, are you still with me? Is this a hard word? Is it difficult to receive?
Ezekiel 33:7.
“See thou, O son of man, I have set thee as a watchman unto the house of Israel. Therefore,thou shalt hear the word at My mouth and warn them from Me.”
There is something else that is mentioned in this verse that is very important.
Do you see it?
God says that Ezekiel will hear. He will hear a “Thus saith the LORD.”
What is that?
It’s a word from the LORD,
… Which is a word from God,
… Which is a word from the throne,
… Which is a word from the Spirit,
… that is a word from God.
So with this in mind, let’s move on and look at what God tells Ezekiel he has to do. Because the first watchman that we read about was appointed by man. The first watchman had a job to be up on the watchtower, and he was supposed to look. If he saw anything, he was to warn and blow a trumpet.
The Other Type of Watchman
But now let’s look at Ezekiel’s instructions. They were different.
Ezekiel 33:8. “When I say unto the wicked, ‘O wicked man, thou shalt surely die,’ if you don’t speak to warn the wicked from his way, from his evil way, then that wicked man shall die in his iniquity. And his blood will I require at your hand.”
You see, folks, God told Ezekiel. And I paraphrase,
“If I show you that someone is out of line, or someone has strayed, and is going in the wrong direction, or living in wickedness, I am going to use you, Ezekiel, to warn them. You must tell them what they are doing and to pull them back onto the path. Because they are a wandering sheep. And I am going to use you to bring them back. Because they are a backslider. They are away from Me. They have fallen into deception. They have left the narrow path and I’m going to use you to bring them back, Ezekiel.”
It is your job to do it. And if you don’t, their blood will be on your hands.
You see folks, these were in Ezekiel’s instructions, given to him by God.
And his instructions were about shining the light on sin.
Ezekiel’s job was to pull people back from their backslidden condition. His job was to gather the wanderers, or those who were falling into error, or those who were walking in deception.
Now, look at verse 9. Ezekiel 33:9.
“Nevertheless, if you warn the wicked from his way to turn and if he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity. You have delivered your soul.”
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